As of today Brexit isn't the UK's biggest problem. Worried Japanese and Koreans and Estonians wondering this morning if their major ally will be there for them. A huge swing to the Democrats in the mid-terms when the adrenalin rush of the protest vote wears off. What a world.
M.Hollande the French President told Le Monde yesterday that he would be the first foreign leader to congratulate Mme Clinton - the new American President. This morning the Elysee has gone quiet other than to say it's business as usual.
On the radio, Monday, a speaker commented that the opinion polls were probably meaningless because we didn't know who was just paying lip service to reason but, underneath, really harboured the hostile, angry and prejudiced views of Trump and would vote that way on Election Day. I guess we know now. I have never been so frightened in my entire life.
Here’s a quote from Thomas Friedman in The International New York Times of June 30. It does a great job of capturing the situation:
It’s the story of our time: The pace of change in technology, globalization and climate have started to outrun the ability of our political systems to build the social, educational, community, workplace and political innovations needed for some citizens to keep up.
We have globalized trade and manufacturing, and we have introduced robots and artificial intelligent systems, far faster than we have designed the social safety nets, trade surge protectors and educational advancement options that would allow people caught in this transition to have the time, space and tools to thrive. It’s left a lot of people dizzy and dislocated.
Clearly the angry protest vote is alive and well in both the UK and the US. As someone said this morning 'Anger works like gasoline. If you use it intelligently and in a controlled manner, you can move the world. That’s called progress. Or you just spill it about and ignite it, creating spectacular explosions. That’s called arson '.
Do we look at the polls and believe the opposite now? The morning coffee is just not working this morning, I think I'll go down the Bloody Mary route as well
Honestly Angus, to say that I'm shocked is an understatement. But Virginia did carry Clinton, but I don't know because I've not watched the news to see how she did in my particular county. But I think I can honestly say that I know how people felt with the brexit results.
But at around 11 o'clock last night, I had to turn off the tv. I finally turned it back on about an hour later, and shut it off again when I saw what had happened. This morning, I don't have the tv on because I still just can't bear to watch it all right now. I'd also decided a few weeks ago that I'd come in late for work, and I'm glad I did. I'm not sure how I'll avoid the topic of the election with the patients, because I'm just not ready to face the real world. The dark clouds and rain we have today, truly reflect my mood.
But thank-goodness I have the dogs to distract me. There is nothing like the antics of a Scottie or seeing Bob and Sophie to give a much needed lift. At least for a moment.
We are shocked as well. Apparently we can't distinguish one end of the horse from the other here in the USA. No candidate is perfect, but the better candidate usually has pertinent experience and is considered sane. Bob's Country here I come! P
This is hardly a surprise. Those of us who supported Bernie Sanders were shouting to the DNC that, if they nominated Clinton, Trump would win. Both of the major party candidates are vile - at least with Trump we may not have WWIII (a near certainty with Clinton), but who knows what we will have.
I must congratulate you, Angus, on finding the only intelligent thing Friedman has ever written.
Thank goodness for the PONs on this miserable morning.
AND the psychic highland goat. The forefathers foresaw such a situation and wrote the Constitution. As the Republicans revere the document, ARE the rich establishment, hope he is a huge fail and is seen as a fail.
My brave very blue county of Broward in South Florida tried so very hard to bring out enough votes to counter the rural red machine....like the little engine that almost could. Shock. Stunned disbelief. But as our president so graciously and smartly said, we have to wish the president-elect success; otherwise we all fail.
It's shocking to me that he will be president but I'm not shocked by the polls. Peopke were polled. People change their minds. People think it is no business of anyone else and lie. People can be disingenuous. I have never had much faith in polls.
It's shocking to me that he will be president but I'm not shocked by the polls. Peopke were polled. People change their minds. People think it is no business of anyone else and lie. People can be disingenuous. I have never had much faith in polls.
I believe I am certain now, if I wasn't before, of our "devolution." America has spoken. I just cannot digest the fact that the ugliness is so pervasive. No wonder the rest of the world loathes us -- I just never saw it so clearly. I am blindsided by this. The choice was merely lesser of two evils but I really did not think the larger evil would win. Brexit should have been a heads-up.
I happened to prefer Sanders to Clinton, but lovely Bernie, with the label 'socialist' attached, was not going to defeat the Trump crowd. There was no question that between Trump and Clinton, Clinton was superior (not to mention, evidence that much of the anti-HRC information pushed in the press was false). Sadly, we often do not get even one great choice, and when the time comes, we have to vote for least-worst. The fact that many people did not vote -- chose to make their point, consequences be damned, as with Brexit -- will likely deal a devastating blow to our environment.
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The word "Shock" is an understatement!
Ditto from me too!
So shocked and sad. May be looking for real estate in France. Judi
I had the same feeling as on waking up to the news on June 25th. Total shock and disbelief.
As of today Brexit isn't the UK's biggest problem.
Worried Japanese and Koreans and Estonians wondering this morning if their major ally will be there for them.
A huge swing to the Democrats in the mid-terms when the adrenalin rush of the protest vote wears off.
What a world.
I really didn't think it could happen.
Unfortunately it has.
No cheers this morning,
Gail.
M.Hollande the French President told Le Monde yesterday that he would be the first foreign leader to congratulate Mme Clinton - the new American President. This morning the Elysee has gone quiet other than to say it's business as usual.
It's all downhill from here. Remember the decline of the Roman empire....
Please, someone, tell us it's all a joke !
"84% of the American people, after inflation, had not had a raise of 1 cent since the financial crash.” --Bill Clinton
The sort of day when usually abstemious people have a Bloody Mary for breakfast.
Back again. We did wonder if your PONS would heard you and "The Font" towards an early morning (Frenh time) medicinal beverage before Trump speaks!
any room for us over there. I'm a dual Italian citizen...may have to move up our retirement early.
A sombre evening down under :( living nightmare feeling !
On the radio, Monday, a speaker commented that the opinion polls were probably meaningless because we didn't know who was just paying lip service to reason but, underneath, really harboured the hostile, angry and prejudiced views of Trump and would vote that way on Election Day. I guess we know now. I have never been so frightened in my entire life.
Here’s a quote from Thomas Friedman in The International New York Times of June 30. It does a great job of capturing the situation:
It’s the story of our time: The pace of change in technology, globalization and climate have started to outrun the ability of our political systems to build the social, educational, community, workplace and political innovations needed for some citizens to keep up.
We have globalized trade and manufacturing, and we have introduced robots and artificial intelligent systems, far faster than we have designed the social safety nets, trade surge protectors and educational advancement options that would allow people caught in this transition to have the time, space and tools to thrive. It’s left a lot of people dizzy and dislocated.
Clearly the angry protest vote is alive and well in both the UK and the US. As someone said this morning 'Anger works like gasoline. If you use it intelligently and in a controlled manner, you can move the world. That’s called progress. Or you just spill it about and ignite it, creating spectacular explosions. That’s called arson '.
Do we look at the polls and believe the opposite now?
The morning coffee is just not working this morning, I think I'll go down the Bloody Mary route as well
https://www.service-public.fr/particuliers/vosdroits/F15832
Filling it out....
It is beyond disgraceful. And it is frightening.
went to bed before it was settled.
woke to president trump.
OMG.
apparently mob rules.
This is an interesting quote/thought. I hope that in American we can come together because these are uncertain times.
Honestly Angus, to say that I'm shocked is an understatement. But Virginia did carry Clinton, but I don't know because I've not watched the news to see how she did in my particular county. But I think I can honestly say that I know how people felt with the brexit results.
But at around 11 o'clock last night, I had to turn off the tv. I finally turned it back on about an hour later, and shut it off again when I saw what had happened. This morning, I don't have the tv on because I still just can't bear to watch it all right now. I'd also decided a few weeks ago that I'd come in late for work, and I'm glad I did. I'm not sure how I'll avoid the topic of the election with the patients, because I'm just not ready to face the real world. The dark clouds and rain we have today, truly reflect my mood.
But thank-goodness I have the dogs to distract me. There is nothing like the antics of a Scottie or seeing Bob and Sophie to give a much needed lift. At least for a moment.
We are shocked as well.
Apparently we can't distinguish one end of the horse from the other here in the USA.
No candidate is perfect, but the better candidate usually has pertinent experience and is considered sane.
Bob's Country here I come! P
This is hardly a surprise. Those of us who supported Bernie Sanders were shouting to the DNC that, if they nominated Clinton, Trump would win. Both of the major party candidates are vile - at least with Trump we may not have WWIII (a near certainty with Clinton), but who knows what we will have.
I must congratulate you, Angus, on finding the only intelligent thing Friedman has ever written.
Thank goodness for the PONs on this miserable morning.
AnnieG
There is deep sadness in our household this morning. We will make a strong effort to focus on what is good and true in the dark days to come.
I have never been scared for my country in my 63 years of life, but I am now. I see us taking huge strides backwards, as a society......
AND the psychic highland goat.
The forefathers foresaw such a situation and wrote the Constitution. As the Republicans revere the document, ARE the rich establishment, hope he is a huge fail and is seen as a fail.
It feels like someone close to me has died. Grief and disbelief.
My brave very blue county of Broward in South Florida tried so very hard to bring out enough votes to counter the rural red machine....like the little engine that almost could. Shock. Stunned disbelief. But as our president so graciously and smartly said, we have to wish the president-elect success; otherwise we all fail.
I have no words...shocked beyond belief.
I no longer recognize, nor feel at home in, my own country.
The shame is visceral.
It's shocking to me that he will be president but I'm not shocked by the polls. Peopke were polled. People change their minds. People think it is no business of anyone else and lie. People can be disingenuous. I have never had much faith in polls.
It's shocking to me that he will be president but I'm not shocked by the polls. Peopke were polled. People change their minds. People think it is no business of anyone else and lie. People can be disingenuous. I have never had much faith in polls.
I believe I am certain now, if I wasn't before, of our "devolution." America has spoken. I just cannot digest the fact that the ugliness is so pervasive. No wonder the rest of the world loathes us -- I just never saw it so clearly. I am blindsided by this. The choice was merely lesser of two evils but I really did not think the larger evil would win. Brexit should have been a heads-up.
Might as well get this what I actually meant :)
I happened to prefer Sanders to Clinton, but lovely Bernie, with the label 'socialist' attached, was not going to defeat the Trump crowd. There was no question that between Trump and Clinton, Clinton was superior (not to mention, evidence that much of the anti-HRC information pushed in the press was false). Sadly, we often do not get even one great choice, and when the time comes, we have to vote for least-worst. The fact that many people did not vote -- chose to make their point, consequences be damned, as with Brexit -- will likely deal a devastating blow to our environment.
Disheartening, disgraceful, embarrassing, surreal. Here's one guy who called it in advance: http://michaelmoore.com/trumpwillwin/
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